The LRB Podcast

Weekly conversations drawn from the pages of the LRB, with hosts Thomas Jones, Adam Shatz and Malin Hay.

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The Grimms’ Weird Tales

Colin Burrow and Thomas Jones, 21 March 2025

19 March 2025 · 49mins

The folk tales collected and rewritten by the Brothers Grimm may ‘seem to come from nowhere and to belong to everyone’, Colin Burrow wrote recently in the LRB, but ‘this is an illusion’. In the latest episode of the LRB podcast, Colin joins Thomas Jones to talk about the distinctive place and time in which Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm lived and worked, as well as the enduring appeal and ‘vital weirdness’ of the tales.

Weaponising Antisemitism

Peter Beinart, Rachel Shabi and Adam Shatz, 24 March 2025

12 March 2025 · 58mins

Two recent books, by Peter Beinart and Rachel Shabi, discuss the response of Jewish communities in the West to the Hamas attacks of 7 October and Israel’s subsequent destruction of Palestinian life in Gaza, and the shifting politics of antisemitism. In this episode Adam Shatz talks to Peter and Rachel about the moral rupture Israel’s actions have caused, particularly along generational lines, among Jews in both the US and UK, and why the question of antisemitism has become separated from the larger politics of anti-racism, allowing the political right to claim this moral territory in defence of Israel.

Who is Paul Marshall?

Peter Geoghegan and Thomas Jones, 24 March 2025

5 March 2025 · 1hr 01min

A decade ago, the hedge fund manager Paul Marshall was known as a Lib Dem donor and founder of the Ark academy chain. Now, as the owner of UnHerd, GB News and, since last September, the Spectator, he’s a right-wing media tycoon. Peter Geoghegan joins Thomas Jones to discuss Marshall’s transformation. He explains the ‘symbiotic relationship’ between Marshall and Michael Gove, their shared connection to evangelical Christianity, and the changing shape of conservative politics in Britain.

Close Readings: ‘Crotchet Castle’ by Thomas Love Peacock

Freya Johnston, Thomas Keymer and Clare Bucknell, 24 March 2025

26 February 2025 · 36mins

In Crotchet Castle, Thomas Love Peacock rejects the expectation that novelists should reveal the interiority of their characters, instead favouring the testing of opinions and ideas. His ‘novel of talk’, published in 1831, appears largely like a playscript in which disparate characters assemble for a house party next to the Thames before heading up the river to Wales. In this extended extract from 'Novel Approaches', a Close Readings series from the LRB, Clare Bucknell is joined by Freya Johnston and Thomas Keymer to discuss where the book came from and its use of ‘sociable argument’ to offer up-to-date commentary on the economic and political turmoil of its time.

Deaths in Custody

Dani Garavelli and Malin Hay, 24 March 2025

19 February 2025 · 36mins

Since 1995, at least 51 young people have died in Scottish prisons. These include Katie Allan and William Lindsay, who shared strong support networks and, despite very different life experiences, died in similar circumstances. Their deaths were deemed preventable in a long-awaited inquiry that identified a ‘catalogue’ of failures but led to no prosecutions. Dani Garavelli has been investigating William and Katie’s deaths since 2018. She joins Malin to discuss the high rate of suicide in custody and why Scotland’s supposedly enlightened approach to youth justice is deeply flawed.

Have we surrendered to climate breakdown?

Brett Christophers and Thomas Jones, 19 March 2025

12 February 2025 · 50mins

In 2015, a vigorous response to climate change seemed possible: even fossil fuel companies talked about transitioning to cleaner energy. But exploration and exploitation of oil and gas reserves have continued unabated, and in 2024, annual temperatures surpassed the 1.5ºC limit set by the Paris Agreement. In a recent piece, Brett Christophers describes the global shift from active policymaking to acceptance and surrender. He joins Tom to discuss the roles of Europe, the US and China in climate change, why solutions like ‘carbon capture’ are futile and where there’s room for cautious optimism. 

On Vigdis Hjorth

Toril Moi and Malin Hay, 19 March 2025

5 February 2025 · 46mins

The Norwegian novelist Vigdis Hjorth is a master of the collapsing relationship. In her twenty books, she turns her eye to estranged siblings, tormented lovers, demanding parents and disaffected colleagues with the same combination of philosophical penetration and sympathy. But she hasn’t always received the recognition afforded to her male peers. On this week’s episode, Toril Moi joins Malin to discuss Hjorth’s early reputation as an ‘erotic’ novelist and what that gets wrong about her work.

Close Readings: ‘Mansfield Park’ by Jane Austen

Colin Burrow, Clare Bucknell and Thomas Jones, 19 March 2025

22 January 2025 · 32mins

On one level, Mansfield Park is a fairytale transposed to the 19th century: Fanny Price is the archetypal poor relation who, through her virtuousness, wins a wealthy husband. But Jane Austen’s 1814 novel is also a shrewd study of speculation, ‘improvement’ and the transformative power of money. In the first episode of Novel Approaches, Colin Burrow joins Clare Bucknell and Thomas Jones to discuss Austen’s acute reading of property and precarity, and why Fanny’s moral cautiousness is a strategic approach to the riskiest speculation of all: marriage.

Ronald Reagan’s Make-Believe

Jackson Lears and Thomas Jones, 19 March 2025

22 January 2025 · 1hr 04mins

Ronald Reagan, as Jackson Lears wrote recently in the LRB, was a ‘telegenic demagogue’ whose ‘emotional appeal was built on white people’s racism’. His presidency left the United States a far more unequal place at home, with a renewed commitment to deadly imperial adventures abroad. Yet he had a gift for making up stories that ‘made America feel good about itself again’. On the latest episode of the LRB podcast, Lears joins Tom to discuss Reagan’s life and self-made legend, from his hardscrabble Midwestern boyhood to the White House by way of Hollywood, and to consider the lasting effects of his presidency.

After Assad

Loubna Mrie, Omar Dahi and Adam Shatz, 19 March 2025

15 January 2025 · 59mins

Adam Shatz is joined by Loubna Mrie and Omar Dahi to discuss the fall of Bashar al-Assad in Syria and the future of the country.

Abbamania

Chal Ravens and Thomas Jones, 24 March 2025

8 January 2025 · 58mins

‘OK, that’s that. It’s over now,’ Björn Ulvaeus thought after Abba broke up in 1982. ‘But,’ as Chal Ravens writes in the latest LRB, ‘Björn’s zeitgeist detector was, as usual, on the blink.’ By the late 1990s, Abba ‘were basically tap water’. In the latest episode of the LRB podcast, Chal joins Thomas Jones to discuss the foursome’s rise to global domination from distinctly Swedish origins, and whether the arc of history bends towards disco.

A Conversation with Neal Ascherson

Neal Ascherson and Thomas Jones, 24 March 2025

1 January 2025 · 1hr 16mins

In this episode of the LRB podcast, Neal Ascherson talks to Thomas Jones about his recent piece on the journalist Claud Cockburn and about his own life and career, from his time as propaganda secretary for the Uganda National Congress to the moment he witnessed preparations for the kidnapping of Mikhail Gorbachev in Crimea but ‘missed the scoop of a lifetime’.

Close Readings: Marcus Aurelius

Emily Wilson and Thomas Jones, 19 March 2025

24 December 2024 · 1hr

As it’s Christmas, we have a full episode of Among the Ancients. Emily Wilson and Thomas Jones turn to the contradictions of the Roman emperor and Stoic philosopher Marcus Aurelius. The writings known in English as The Meditations reveal the emperor’s preoccupations with illness, growing old, death and posthumous reputation, as he urges himself not to be troubled by such transient things.

Saving Masud Khan

Wynne Godley, 19 March 2025

18 December 2024 · 38mins

Masud Khan was a protégé of D.W. Winnicott and the darling of British psychoanalysis. He was also much else besides. In this unforgettable piece from 2001, Wynne Godley describes his baffling and disastrous sessions with Khan.

Gaza, Before and After

Ghassan Abu-Sittah, Muhammad Shehada and Adam Shatz, 24 March 2025

13 December 2024 · 1hr 25mins

Ghassan Abu-Sittah and Muhammad Shehada join Adam Shatz to describe what life was like in Gaza in the months and years leading up to the Hamas attack on Israel last October, and to discuss the experiences of Gazans during Israel’s subsequent – and ongoing – devastation of the territory.